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Peyote that curves when it shouldn't
Last post 08-12-2009 7:36 PM by Kande Kat. 24 replies.
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  • 06-06-2009 8:05 PM

    Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    My first try at peyote stitch came out with  a lovely curve on one side when it shoudn't! I used size 6 beads to that I could hold them easier.

    How do I correct this? Any help will be appreciated. thanks.

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  • 06-06-2009 11:10 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    How many rows have you done?  I you've only done one or two rows, don't worry.  It will straighten out as you go.

    Cat

  • 06-07-2009 2:34 AM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

     I've been playing with peyote lately, so have lots of experience of it looking a bit strange! When I used size 6 round beads, the piece never seemed really woven together.  Are your beads round or cylinder? The cylinder beads are great for peyote.

    Also, sometimes I've noticed that my tension stitching up the row is different than down the row, thus causing the piece to arch.  When it was doing that, I turned the piece each time so that I worked each row the same way.

    And last of all, you can tug a bit on the starting tail thread and your working thread to tighten the tension and pull things even.


  • 06-07-2009 11:16 AM In reply to

    • Webbe
    • Joined on 02-26-2005
    • Georgia
    • Posts 224

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

     I just started my first peyote stitch last night. I had it curving after about five rows. One of the beads in the first stitched row had slipped into the base row. I then used that "slipped bead" in the next row of stitch resulting in the curve. I ripped it out got the tension right and no slipped beads or curves.

    I have been using  size 6 with a square hole and they are working fine since I corrected my problem.

  • 06-10-2009 2:52 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Peyote I hate this stitch.  I've been beading for years now and I still can't get the hang of it.

    Only today I was trying make a gift for a family member and it was peyote based.  I've tried all the ticks like putting a needle on the first row, still it gets out of shape and either very loose or too tight.  I had to undo it four times now.  I've given up on my ring project now.  I'll have to make her something less stressful.

     

  • 06-10-2009 5:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Hi Sunflower.  I'm just curious, what stitches do you enjoy?  Peyote was the first one I learned, and I still love doing it.  Now RAW frustrates me as much as peyote does to you.  I like most other stitches, but I just can't wrap my mind around RAW, much as I try it.  I've had only one piece come out successfully.

    Cat

     

  • 06-15-2009 3:09 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    beadiecat:

    Hi Sunflower.  I'm just curious, what stitches do you enjoy?  Peyote was the first one I learned, and I still love doing it.  Now RAW frustrates me as much as peyote does to you.  I like most other stitches, but I just can't wrap my mind around RAW, much as I try it.  I've had only one piece come out successfully.

    Cat

     

     

     

    Hi Beadicat

    My favorite is Spiral.  It's so easy once you've learnt it and it was my first ever stitch I learnt.  You can do so much with it too.  

    I do like RAW but only basic right angled weave.  Most times I have to watch a video tutorial to get to make pieces with this stitch.  Love working with monofilament/fishing line too.

    I don't mind basic brick stitch but I can't follow patterns or anything.  I can only make fringed earrings with it.

    The other stitch I like is Daisy chain and again you can do so many different things with that too.

  • 06-15-2009 4:33 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    I am halfway through a brick stitch pattern (with size 15 delicas) and I looked back and saw that I made a mistake about 4 rows back.  As you know, brick is very hard to rip out, so now I'm torn between starting over or continuing and hoping I'm the only person that the mistake glares at.

    Cat

  • 06-15-2009 6:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

     Try  tightening up the ends then hold the  sides and jiggle it a little. This will feven out the tension and should help it to straighten out.

  • 06-15-2009 6:50 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    my early pieces curved all over the place... What brand of size 6 are you using? Toho's & other japanese beads tend to be more uniform, so you may want to switch brands & give it a try. Cheaper brands are less uniform & with such a large size seed beads, you can really have something out of whack pretty quickly if the beads are of various widths. With experience, you can use cheaper beads, but this will take much much practice, until spotting those beads that are too fat or too skinny become second nature. So I wouldn't use them, if you are still learning the stitch.
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  • 06-16-2009 12:01 PM In reply to

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    Delica's are the best seed beads to use for Peyote but with me it don't make any difference, I'm still crap at it.

  • 06-16-2009 12:54 PM In reply to

    • shir
    • Joined on 02-26-2009
    • Posts 57

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    hi

    usually peyote curves when you tighten the stitch too much . tighten the stitch only when you want it to curve .

    shir

  • 07-01-2009 7:13 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Hi, Kande Kat!

     It could be a number of reasons, either too tight, to loose, or uneven tension, which often happens when you are learning a new stitch. It can also happen when your beads gradually increase, or decrease in size, which can be used to your advantage if you want the work to curve, like when making beaded flowers.

    Frequent paractice will help you even out your tension, and making sure that the beads you use are even in size will help keep the work looking even.

     

    Love, Jan

  • 07-03-2009 10:36 AM In reply to

    • WT62
    • Joined on 02-25-2009
    • Halifax, Yorkshire. England
    • Posts 48

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Peyote stitch was one of the first stitches I did and so I find it easy. With Peyote stitch it is a case of practice makes perfect! I love RAW too. Reading the patterns isn't a problem for me so I guess I am lucky that way. I, however, cannot design a piece, or choose colours, so I think we all have different talents. I wouldn't worry too much about making a mistake - especially in brick stitch - as only God is perfect!!!! Anyway must go as Wimbledon is on and Murray is winning at the moment.
  • 07-05-2009 9:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

     If Peyote is curving, you may be adding extra beads, or you may be twisting around your first row so you are adding beads through both sides of your first row. In fact, if you are using an rather normal size thread (such as NYMO B) and size six beads (particularly Czech sixes which have a bigger hole) it is easy for the beads to flop on your thread, and therefore easier to twist your rows.

    Rather than trying to teach yourself peyote with with big beads, try a project using cylinder beads such as toho aikos or twisted hexes or even Japeneese cubes. It will be very easy to see where the beads line up.  You can make it even easier by starting with a patter of color A for the first row, B for the second Row, and C for the third row, so you will have no trouble determining which is the new row to place beads.  This three color pattern can create quite beautiful effects if you chose colors that sit well next to each other without completely blending.

  • 07-05-2009 12:46 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    When I first started I had a lot of problems with peyote stitch curving & avoided the stitch for many years. In one of my moments it dawned on me that peyote is just brick stitch turned sideways. I now start many of my projects with a 2 bead brick stitch strip & always start around the middle of the pattern, then do 2 rows peyote on 1 side of the strip, go back to the other side & continue with the pattern before finishing the first side. I have a diagram for it here  http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/beadedrose/Freepatterns.html  at the bottom of the page.

    I hope this helps.

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  • 07-09-2009 10:15 AM In reply to

    • petal
    • Joined on 04-19-2008
    • Posts 55

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Hi, try a two needle start.  Susan Cooper has instructions on her web site.  I think that it is an eaiser way for beginners of peoyte to learn.  Hope this helps.

  • 07-20-2009 3:23 PM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Are you doing even or odd- stitch peyote? The only time I had trouble with the peyote curving was when I did an odd-stitch pattern for a necklace. Because of the extra steps to turn on the odd row, it curved.  Hope this helps.  I haven't yet mastered odd-stitch, so try to only do even-stitch patterns.

     

     

  • 07-21-2009 1:04 AM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

     Kande,  Is the curve on the base row edge?  If so, your stop-bead is too tight.  When I begin peyote, I loop my thread around a stop-bead twice, then when I'm done with row 4 and there's no squiggle in the beads, I loosen the stop bead and even out the piece.

     I've also found that circular peyote should never be knotted because as you work around, the circle gets just a teeny bit bigger and you have to allow for that...

     HTH,

    Chris

  • 08-11-2009 1:00 AM In reply to

    Re: Peyote that curves when it shouldn't

    Thank you all for your replies and help, it really was useful to me.  Quite a few little tips that I wasn't aware of. (I need to come back and take notes of them- lol) I'm still struggling with the start rows, but keep coming back for more practice!

    Right at this moment i'm trying to make a toggle bar for a necklace on commision for a bride. The necklace (a 14") is in size 6mm glas pearls and as the client has a sever metal allergy even to sterling, I thought I would make a toggle clasp.  Althought the only matching beads for the silvery grey pearls were a siz #15, I think they are, they are so very tiny.

    Does anyone have any advice for me on these beads? I am anxious to make the best I can as this is my first wedding commision.

    Please - help me if you can with ideas

     

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