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New to lamp work beads and have some questions
Last post 07-04-2009 12:22 PM by 1Glassy1. 3 replies.
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  • 03-24-2009 2:17 PM

    • cherjr
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    New to lamp work beads and have some questions

    I am really new to lamp work beads I took a class at the local university (it was real basic and they don't offer anything more) about a year ago and caught the bug.  I've always loved glass there is just something magical about it.  Anyway...... I finally got the nerve to start on my own.  I got a torch the type you put on the small mapp gas tanks.  I also have some glass coe104.  When I make the beads my glass changes color.  I've worked with ceramics so I understand the color you start with isn't always what you get in the end but these colors are getting muddy and have what looks like scorch marks on it.  Some of the glass is getting small bubbles in it or rather on top.  WHAT AM I DON'T WRONG????

    Cher

  • 03-27-2009 11:46 AM In reply to

    Re: New to lamp work beads and have some questions

     

    hey cher

    when u use a map gas style torch with out any added oxygen u will have many issues with this.. 

    what is happening is the map gas it self.. or rather its chemicals are not totally burning up in the flame and they are touching the glass.. and thus creating that bad reaction.... 

     a few things that will help is work farther out in the flame this will give more time for the excess gass to burn up and less black-icky goo..   generally with soft glass the color u see is what u get at the end.. with minor exceptions to colors heavy in metals those will luster and fume if you will... great effects ..

     perhaps if you are really in to this u should up grade the torch to a propane / oxy mix....

    sorry i am no pro with those map tanks.. i sorta skipped that step and went straight to the big guns... lol

    good luck 

    email if you need anything 

    annie

    ps not sure where u live but i will be offering classes in burlington vt coming this spring and summer

     

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  • 04-10-2009 9:19 AM In reply to

    • Iris' Iris'
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    Re: New to lamp work beads and have some questions

    Would suggest that you also check out YouTube for flamework demos, you'll notice that they work their beads well out into the flame. 

    I have been working with the small torch and MAPP tanks too, and wear protective glasses - point being that if you also wear glasses, the flame will look different than with "bare" eyes (you'll not see the yellow) and have fewer visual clues for the sweet-spot you need to work in.  I've learned to listen and note the difference in the sound when working in the quieter sweet-spot instead of the raggedy sounding too close area (and muddies your colors).

    Another process I use to be aware of my flame is to light my torch with a wooden kitchen match, keep the match burning, then turn down my torch until it reaches the minimal gas point and goes out, then turn it up slightly, and re-light it with the match.  This gives me a consistent reference point for my MAPP gas feed.  The MAPP gas feed will be different if the tank is full, cold/warm, and even if the air environment changes (hot muggy day is different than below zero and dry).   If I use a welder's sparker, this is a fussier process than with wooden kitchen matches.

    Last suggestion, consider making up sampler beads from the same rod of glass; some 1.5 inches out, some 2 inches, and so forth - this will calibrate your concept of the sweet-spot.

    And, as a side note, don't let yourself get hooked into the big/small torch deal - your goal now is to learn to work comfortably with your existing tools and materials and to develop YOUR passion.  That passion will lead you to other tools and materials.  When I started out, I was collecting bottles and breaking them for glass, mixing in anything metal, ceramic, or otherwise for decoration and (here's the point) then analyzing what the result was and how to reproduce it or change it.  In your analysis, hold on to your right to determine what is great and what is otherwise, you are always at choice to determine your own meanings.  

    Enjoy, be brave, share.

    Iris 

     

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  • 07-04-2009 12:22 PM In reply to

    Re: New to lamp work beads and have some questions

    Old post I know, but I'm new here and just starting to browse ;)

     So, incase someone else stumbles on this with questions, what Iris said is spot on in my opinion.

    I've been lampworking for (only?) 3 years, sell very very successfully and I'm on a Hot Head, ie; not a surface-mix torch/big gun. I've not had soot issues except once, and it was a bad batch of gas.

    I'm about to 'upgrade' soon only because I have 2 surface mix torches, one gifted to me and another that I won, but I will keep my Hot Head handy because the results you can get from it are great. Because of the high propane properties it's amazing for reduction glasses.(And there's so many out there now that are just gorgeous!)

    It can be very expensive as all glass workers know, so if it's just 'starting out' or 'a once in awhile' hobby there's no need to pay for a new torch, oxy, regulators, hoses, flashback arrestors etc etc etc.

    But like Iris said, it's more than likely a dirty batch of gas, or the issue is you're too close, move the bead back some, or change the tank, and practice :)

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